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		<title>By: Transparent Dyes Allow Windows to Act as Super powerful Solar &#124; Portable Greenhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Transparent Dyes Allow Windows to Act as Super powerful Solar &#124; Portable Greenhouse</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Transparent Dyes Allow Windows to Act as Super powerful Solar   Posted by root 18 minutes ago (http://www.casavaria.com)        But let calculate the cost in greenhouse gas emissions for sorry the comment form is closed at this time footer thehotspring com a casavaria project powered by wordpress and shinra house hotspring rss        Discuss&#160;  &#124;&#160; Bury &#124;&#160;    News &#124; Transparent Dyes Allow Windows to Act as Super powerful Solar [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Al Gore Calls on U.S. to Produce All Energy from Renewables within 10 Years &#124; The Hot Spring.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Gore Calls on U.S. to Produce All Energy from Renewables within 10 Years &#124; The Hot Spring.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bush Lifts Executive Ban on Offshore Drilling; Congress May Renew its Ban &#124; CafeSentido.com on Transparent Dyes Allow Windows to Act as Super-powerful Solar PanelsPres. Bush Lifts Executive Ban on Offshore Oil Drilling, Challenges Environmentally-minded Congress [...]</description>
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		<title>By: U.S. Pres. Bush Lifts Executive Ban on Offshore Drilling; Congress May Renew its Ban &#124; CafeSentido.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>U.S. Pres. Bush Lifts Executive Ban on Offshore Drilling; Congress May Renew its Ban &#124; CafeSentido.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] StatesFCC Chairman Says He Will Take Action to Prevent ISPs from Controlling Users? ActivitiesTransparent Dyes Allow Windows to Act as Super-powerful Solar PanelsOilman T. Boone Pickens Wants to Create National Wind-energy Network in the USWind Power Set to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pres. Bush Lifts Executive Ban on Offshore Oil Drilling, Challenges Environmentally-minded Congress &#124; The Hot Spring.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pres. Bush Lifts Executive Ban on Offshore Oil Drilling, Challenges Environmentally-minded Congress &#124; The Hot Spring.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeping to facts is helpful: nuclear energy is not cleaner than all alternative fuels; in fact, the risk of release of radiation from spent nuclear fuel and from components of nuclear plants than are retired from use is such that used materials were required by law to be 100% hermetically sealed against seepage for 10,000 years, until a federal judge ruled that the science supported a minimum of 1 million years. 

Nuclear will not help us speed the transition, because it will take decades to get a fleet of new plants up and running. And, considering the economic woes we&#039;re facing, who&#039;s going to pay for 10,000 to 1 million years of fool-proof storage?

The Hoover Dam, along with other major dam projects, when adjust for inflation, has never made a profit. The cost for these massive industrial undertakings is paid by the taxpayer, i.e. you. Considering we now have means of avoiding environmental devastation, like solar and wind power, we have to consider that industry that produces a clean solution with minimal footprint, is the best choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping to facts is helpful: nuclear energy is not cleaner than all alternative fuels; in fact, the risk of release of radiation from spent nuclear fuel and from components of nuclear plants than are retired from use is such that used materials were required by law to be 100% hermetically sealed against seepage for 10,000 years, until a federal judge ruled that the science supported a minimum of 1 million years. </p>
<p>Nuclear will not help us speed the transition, because it will take decades to get a fleet of new plants up and running. And, considering the economic woes we&#8217;re facing, who&#8217;s going to pay for 10,000 to 1 million years of fool-proof storage?</p>
<p>The Hoover Dam, along with other major dam projects, when adjust for inflation, has never made a profit. The cost for these massive industrial undertakings is paid by the taxpayer, i.e. you. Considering we now have means of avoiding environmental devastation, like solar and wind power, we have to consider that industry that produces a clean solution with minimal footprint, is the best choice.</p>
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		<title>By: DV</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WIND power? Seriously?

Freaking joke, that one. If we want power based on a (relatively) renewable energy source that doesn&#039;t harm the environment anywhere near the levels of oil, gas, or for God&#039;s sakes coal, AND a source that can actually supply enough power to meet the needs of our ridiculous society here in the states (not by any means that I think our power demands are &quot;wrong&quot; - I&#039;m right there sucking it down with the rest of them) then I&#039;m pretty sure nuclear is currently the best answer. (environmentalists love that one)

Proven to be cleaner in both the short term and long term than any of the current power sources, and also proven to generate the output required. Properly handled, generates less of the horrible &quot;greenhouse gasses&quot; that are hailed by the media and ignorant masses to be destroying our planet. (not that they&#039;re not a problem, but don&#039;t I don&#039;t believe everything I read about Britney in the rags, why should something &quot;sciencey&quot; automatically gain credibility?)

Either that, or we need to get started building a BOATload more hoover damns... 

Solar collection technology has to be the long term solution, I&#039;m not sure how we can even argue against that.

If you&#039;re worried about the environment, don&#039;t use ethanol, completely energy negative. And for sure don&#039;t buy a hybrid unless you plan on driving it the next 10 years, in which case it might equal out against a used geo metro...

I&#039;d almost rather argue about whether there&#039;s a God or not, than talk to someone about the &quot;environment&quot; these days. I think religious advocates may have more sense about them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WIND power? Seriously?</p>
<p>Freaking joke, that one. If we want power based on a (relatively) renewable energy source that doesn&#8217;t harm the environment anywhere near the levels of oil, gas, or for God&#8217;s sakes coal, AND a source that can actually supply enough power to meet the needs of our ridiculous society here in the states (not by any means that I think our power demands are &#8220;wrong&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;m right there sucking it down with the rest of them) then I&#8217;m pretty sure nuclear is currently the best answer. (environmentalists love that one)</p>
<p>Proven to be cleaner in both the short term and long term than any of the current power sources, and also proven to generate the output required. Properly handled, generates less of the horrible &#8220;greenhouse gasses&#8221; that are hailed by the media and ignorant masses to be destroying our planet. (not that they&#8217;re not a problem, but don&#8217;t I don&#8217;t believe everything I read about Britney in the rags, why should something &#8220;sciencey&#8221; automatically gain credibility?)</p>
<p>Either that, or we need to get started building a BOATload more hoover damns&#8230; </p>
<p>Solar collection technology has to be the long term solution, I&#8217;m not sure how we can even argue against that.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re worried about the environment, don&#8217;t use ethanol, completely energy negative. And for sure don&#8217;t buy a hybrid unless you plan on driving it the next 10 years, in which case it might equal out against a used geo metro&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d almost rather argue about whether there&#8217;s a God or not, than talk to someone about the &#8220;environment&#8221; these days. I think religious advocates may have more sense about them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.casavaria.com/hotspring/2008/07/11/167/transparent-dyes-allow-windows-to-act-as-super-powerful-solar-panels/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido/2007/08/03/478/pink-solar-cells-can-produce-power-at-25-of-current-cost/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pink Solar Cells Can Produce Power at 25% of Current Cost&lt;/a&gt;

As environmental groups, lobbyists and the general public push for more environmentally friendly industrial practices, scientists are finding innovative ways to bring down costs and increase the efficiency of renewable resources. The dye-sensitive solar cells (DSSC), with a pinkish sheen, now being developed at Ohio State University, are an example of the type of engineering innovation that could bring about a genuine green-power revolution...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido/2007/08/03/478/pink-solar-cells-can-produce-power-at-25-of-current-cost/" rel="nofollow">Pink Solar Cells Can Produce Power at 25% of Current Cost</a></p>
<p>As environmental groups, lobbyists and the general public push for more environmentally friendly industrial practices, scientists are finding innovative ways to bring down costs and increase the efficiency of renewable resources. The dye-sensitive solar cells (DSSC), with a pinkish sheen, now being developed at Ohio State University, are an example of the type of engineering innovation that could bring about a genuine green-power revolution&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kirke</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rapid development and deployment of this technology would be advantageous to anyone interested in some semblance of energy independence. Just the thought of a more economic and efficient solar panel gives me hope that our generation may finally see viable alternative energy become a reality for the common man.  

This is some of the best news I&#039;ve heard in years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rapid development and deployment of this technology would be advantageous to anyone interested in some semblance of energy independence. Just the thought of a more economic and efficient solar panel gives me hope that our generation may finally see viable alternative energy become a reality for the common man.  </p>
<p>This is some of the best news I&#8217;ve heard in years.</p>
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		<title>By: EarthLover</title>
		<link>http://www.casavaria.com/hotspring/2008/07/11/167/transparent-dyes-allow-windows-to-act-as-super-powerful-solar-panels/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>EarthLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to Aurum79 - Why don&#039;t we all just give up now.  What about the greenhouse gas emissions for manufacturing these complex wind turbines, including disposal of the haz mats generated, as well as the cost.  

You obviously could not get into MIT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Aurum79 &#8211; Why don&#8217;t we all just give up now.  What about the greenhouse gas emissions for manufacturing these complex wind turbines, including disposal of the haz mats generated, as well as the cost.  </p>
<p>You obviously could not get into MIT</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Gandenberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Gandenberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a company already producing applique solar collector films:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080626/clth039.html?.v=101

If office buildings were build to reflect on each other, 
as in  \_/ you&#039;d have positive energy generation from 
their windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a company already producing applique solar collector films:</p>
<p><a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080626/clth039.html?.v=101" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080626/clth039.html?.v=101</a></p>
<p>If office buildings were build to reflect on each other,<br />
as in  \_/ you&#8217;d have positive energy generation from<br />
their windows.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s fair to say there is a vested economic interest in bringing this sort of high-technology to market. But the issue is not strictly philosophical, I think. MIT works on a dizzying array of technological innovations, including some which aim to improve existing technologies. 

The technology involved in the OSC-type solar panels will be less expensive to produce and will involve significantly fewer carbon emissions than existing standards in solar cell production. The cost for coating existing cells with the light-concentrating dyes is minimal compared to retrofitting existing solar farms with experimental technologies, and the value of a zero-pollution method for harvesting energy goes far beyond the current &quot;interim fixes&quot; like &quot;clean coal&quot; or increased exploitation of Canada&#039;s oil sands.

Conservation is a wonderful and necessary component of a healthy energy economy, but MIT can&#039;t force consumers to do it, nor can the government. Backing this sort of technology will help speed it to market, and will likely attract money to other, perhaps as yet unimagined, cutting edge technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fair to say there is a vested economic interest in bringing this sort of high-technology to market. But the issue is not strictly philosophical, I think. MIT works on a dizzying array of technological innovations, including some which aim to improve existing technologies. </p>
<p>The technology involved in the OSC-type solar panels will be less expensive to produce and will involve significantly fewer carbon emissions than existing standards in solar cell production. The cost for coating existing cells with the light-concentrating dyes is minimal compared to retrofitting existing solar farms with experimental technologies, and the value of a zero-pollution method for harvesting energy goes far beyond the current &#8220;interim fixes&#8221; like &#8220;clean coal&#8221; or increased exploitation of Canada&#8217;s oil sands.</p>
<p>Conservation is a wonderful and necessary component of a healthy energy economy, but MIT can&#8217;t force consumers to do it, nor can the government. Backing this sort of technology will help speed it to market, and will likely attract money to other, perhaps as yet unimagined, cutting edge technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: aurum79</title>
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		<dc:creator>aurum79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea.  But let&#039;s calculate the cost in greenhouse gas emissions for manufacturing these complex panels, including disposal of the haz mats generated, as well as the cost of retrofitting existing installations and transporting the replaced materials to landfills.  These high tech solutions are sort of like going to the moon; clever and fun but ultimately useless in the time scale of the likely survival of most of the species on earth.  We are rapidly approaching the point where we cannot afford to adopt new technologies as our econony and way of life collapse.   We need to focus on immediate, practical, proven energy saving technologies now (like conservation, buried DC transmission lines, wind power and the like) in order that these kind of innovations can be supported in the future.   A new generation of students needs to get the &quot;gee whiz&quot; feeling from appropriately scaled technologies.   Looks like MIT is not getting it right philosophically, and as usual, is following the money, which is  thing disconnected from the health of our planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea.  But let&#8217;s calculate the cost in greenhouse gas emissions for manufacturing these complex panels, including disposal of the haz mats generated, as well as the cost of retrofitting existing installations and transporting the replaced materials to landfills.  These high tech solutions are sort of like going to the moon; clever and fun but ultimately useless in the time scale of the likely survival of most of the species on earth.  We are rapidly approaching the point where we cannot afford to adopt new technologies as our econony and way of life collapse.   We need to focus on immediate, practical, proven energy saving technologies now (like conservation, buried DC transmission lines, wind power and the like) in order that these kind of innovations can be supported in the future.   A new generation of students needs to get the &#8220;gee whiz&#8221; feeling from appropriately scaled technologies.   Looks like MIT is not getting it right philosophically, and as usual, is following the money, which is  thing disconnected from the health of our planet.</p>
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